Memories of Chingola

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A blog reader from Cardiff, Mr. Paul Duggan, has sent in a very interesting account of his experiences of working in the Copper Mines in Chingola in the 1970s. It provides a fascinating insight into the life of a young engineer from the UK in Zambia.

“We arrived in Chingola in April 1976, it was 12 years after independence and still quite colonial, the Europeans were well “looked after”.

My wife was 23, I was 26 and our daughters were 3 and just 10 months and I think now, that I saw our two year contract almost as VSO except I was getting paid for it.

Nchanga copper mines had recruited me and quite a few other craftsmen, with a large advert in a Sunday newspaper. I was a Power Station trained specialist so they put me to work 1500ft. underground in the pump chambers on machinery that I was familiar with thankfully.

Our first house was in 12th street but we only stayed a few weeks, long enough to gain a houseboy called Dackwell Banda who stayed with us for the whole two years and became part of our little family. He was a good man who had come to the copperbelt from eastern Zambia near the border with Malawi a few years before our arrival.

The social life for the Europeans was based around the rugby or cricket club as well as gatherings in each other’s homes for braais which meant there was often overtime for Dackwell in the evening looking after Kathryn and Paula. Dackwell would earn the same as a day’s pay for his babysitting duties, so he would always be very happy to watch television for a few hours with the girls tucked under his arms.

Dackwell’s basic monthly wages were K30 but the Kwacha was worth more than it is today. Usually he got about K50 which was about £30 then.

Dackwell and his wife had a baby in 1977 and he asked us what to call the baby! We protested that it was for him and his wife to choose, in the end he compromised and somewhere in Chingola is a young woman called Paulo Banda.

The mine moved us up to Kabundi to a more modern house and our neighbours were nearly all Europeans who happened to work underground. It was better for Dackwell too as he lived in the “compound” which was quite close.

We seemed to settle into life in Chingola quite easily, everybody started work early in the morning, you had to be ready to go underground by 6.15, but your day’s work was done by 2.15 so you had plenty of time to spend with your family in the afternoon, if you weren’t dragged off to the mine club for an afternoon drinking marathon. I soon realised that I was definitely a lightweight when it came to drinking so I tended to head home or met Lynette and the girls at the municipal pool.

Lynette in some ways had more to get used to, because she basically had nothing to do at home, Dackwell took over and really looked after us all. She did actually bake and made clothes for the girls which was novel for a “modern” Welsh wife !

The mine lent all newcomers K1000 to buy a car so we bought a Vauxhall Viva that was 10 years old but rust free! We weren’t used to rust free cars. Funnily, I sold that car just before we came home for K400 more than I paid for it, although Dackwell and myself did overhaul the engine on the kitchen table at one time!

For me working underground was surprisingly easy to get used to, everybody was welcoming and we had a real mix of nationalities which included a Malaysian called Jabbar Bin Man who used to cook the most incredible meals for us on a little two hob cooker sometimes helped by Ashok Khambete a Brahmin Hindu vegetarian.

Most of the other supervisors in the pump chamber set up were British or Afrikaans and some had been working there for many years. Dennis Mwabe was a local chap who had been promoted though the Zambianisation program that ran throughout the underground engineering department. Dennis was an excellent craftsman and a really good bridge player when we were on standby!

Our gang of mechanics were the best on the mine, they were all specially selected form five school leavers. For the mechanics working in the pump chambers was a prestigious job, because it was highly skilled and relatively safe compared with other departments underground.

I vividly remember being criticised by an older Afrikaner colleague for teaching our mechanics to read precision measuring instruments, I think he found these instruments a bit difficult himself!

I think most white Southern Africans found the young British liberal attitudes too much to take.

I really enjoyed my time in the pump chambers and whilst there we commissioned new chambers at 2800ft. which involved everyone and was quite an exciting time.

For about 10 months I worked shifts which meant that in the evening and throughout the night I might be the only European underground. I think that allowed me to build a unique relationship with my shift colleagues which was very beneficial for me because they would let me sleep on night shift and only wake me if there was breakdown ! Even then they would apologise ! They were so friendly and hard working it was a pleasure working with them.

I remember being underground and walking on the railway sleepers with a group of faceworkers when I fell flat on my face but before I knew what was happening I had been lifted up and dusted down by at least four of them which was wonderful in itself but the thing that intrigued me was that they all apologised for me falling over!! I am still not sure why they did that but it was a lovely experience, (allowing for my grazed knee)

A consequence of working shifts was that I was out and about during the day with my family so I got to know all the wives and children, which prompted a few funny looks from the husbands at social gatherings when I was greeted like a family friend.

For our last year in Chingola I worked under the wonderful title of “Critical nil-stock Expeditor”which meant I had to try and locally source imported spares that were used in underground machinery.

Practically the job entailed travelling around the Copperbelt to as many different suppliers as possible. It meant I was in Kitwe and Ndola at least twice a week and Mufulira and Luanshya fairly often, so I got to know the Copperbelt very well and was chauffeured everywhere. It was the best job on the mine!

Just before we came home we went on holiday to Malawi, we borrowed a big car from friends and drove via Lusaka all the way to Malawi in one long day and stayed on the lakeshore for a week. We had a great time but the best memory of that holiday was being able to buy Cadburys chocolate in Lilongwe !

– Paul Duggan “

This account raises a number of issues and questions which readers might want to consider. For example, how might Paul’s experiences have differed from those of other Zambians? How has Chingola changed since Paul was working in the mine? Why might Paul have been seen as a ‘liberal’ by some people? Please feel free to offer your own thoughts from a Zambian and UK (and any other nation) perspective. It is of enormous educational value to begin to explore alternative perspectives rather than just accepting the so-called ‘received wisdom’ that often enters our living rooms via the Media.

Many thanks again Paul.

241 Responses to “Memories of Chingola”

  1. CYNTHIA Says:

    Hello!

    I was very delighted to read this story. I did my secondary school at kabundi high school at the same time I was residing in Kabundi T.ship. Really chingola used to be the little lovey town. Not as it is seen at the moment.

    “FORM FIVE” sounds lovely. not any more..

  2. Cheryll Rogers Says:

    HI,

    Lovely story,

    Need to get in touch with Paul and Lynette re Eileen Budd,

    URGENT

    Cheryll

  3. Lumbe John Says:

    Hi, i kind of enjoyed the story at the sametime sad as I compared the chingola the writer talks about and the one I see today. My primary schooling was at Hellen waller (later known as Nakatindi) moved on to Chingola primary school which was considered upper primary then. The two schools were gorgeous, nice swimming people, all kinds of sports (atheletics day was huge. I remember my sports house was Luangwa which ever came second with its green colors). A nice arts room on the uppor floor of the administration block, a well stocked library and above all a film room. A place were we feasted on John Wayne moves. I recall there was a fish pond too. My favourite shop in the city center was Nchanga delicatesen followed by the city council library. It was a real mingling place for students from Chingola and convent school. Last year I went to visit my birth place, it looks like the old ruins of timbakutu, roads are full of pot holes, mwaseni bus station is like a war zone. The city market area has got all kinds of funny structures. How can those who were empowered to take the little beautiful town into the future spoil such beauty? They got the bribes and chowed them and developed amnisia concerning the future generation. Their grandchildren have no playing grounds, no library. Streets are full of potholes. Some are deas others are alive and living in the filth they created.

    I have an idea though, to help the city library which was once carpeted smelling with well taken care of books revamp the passion for literature among primary school kids. I am thinking of initiating debate competitons, reading competitions, writing competitions and the library as the research and executing center. Of course, grand prices will be given for motivation. Do you think you can consider being part of it? Donating a computer, good books, education escursions for the winning schools and individuals would be ideal for those who had lived in Chingola and went to Chingola,Nakatindi primary schools. Tell me what you think.

    • Diane Charlton Says:

      I started Helen Waller in 1958 and was there for two and a half years. I lived in 12th street with my family, Joan Stan Stephen and Shelley Hart .. can I ask if you were there about this time?
      Diane

  4. Lumbe John Says:

    OOOPS!!! I forgot to tell this, I have been away from Chingola for 16 years being nutured in the diaspora.

  5. Tione Says:

    John, Your comment gives an interesting reading and I guess you are interested in contributing to the development of Zambia.Your offer to initiate the outlined competions is welcome.Get in touch with me. Email:phirits@yahoo.co.uk.I hope those who lived in Chingola will welcome your suggestions.

  6. Paul Zulu Says:

    Nice Story.I also did work underground but in the late 90s and part of the year 2000.I full understand your story and the enviroment under which you worked.
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    Regards
    Paul

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  8. paul matray Says:

    I really recall my days in chingola in late 70s and early 80s. i was working as an architect with chingola city council for 6 years. city was very nice and so people – expats and local zambians. i knew ashok khambate – vegetarian bhrahim, we used to party on weekends. it was a great time. Kabundi school teacher mr. nair was among my friend as well. in council my boss was h k kavimba- city engineer and mr. chiteba tall smart very active council head. town center was neat and clean, small, one thing i remember that chingola had no stop lights and no elevator in town. it was a great time.
    my house cleaner was alex banda as well nice sweet family.
    good to read your thoughts on chingola.
    bye.
    paul

  9. Ted Wiseman Says:

    Hi. I worked in Chingola for most of the 70’s so would have been around during the periods referred to above.
    I worked in the Tax Office – opposite the Post Office in the main street where most of us collected our mail.
    I have in recent years tried to Google a few of the staff there- eg Jack Silumbwe , Lazarus Lungu or Katongo Kabungo without luck.

    My daughters Jacqueline and Claire attended Nakatindi.

    My main recreation centred around The RAOB (or Buffs) Club and I would love to hear from any brother members.

    Wonderful memories!

    • Lubuto Nsofu Says:

      Kabungo Katongo works with the Football Association of Zambia as a referees manager. He retired a long time ago from the tax office. He is a relative of mine. I do not have his email address but check the FAZ website http://www.fazfootball.com/ you might just get a response from him.

      I grew up in Chingola. Attended Hellen Waller infant school then Chingola primary and on to Chingola High School when the town was the cleanest in Zambia definitely not today. I live in Kitwe now but I was there not too long ago.
      I am clergy and itinerant minister during Summer (responding to you from Pennsylvania, USA on my summer break). I am currently doing my Masters in Practical Theology with Matterseyhall/ Chester University UK.
      One person i would wish to hear from was a classmate/friend at Chingola Primary is Stephen Ashley (1968-1972. They could not say my name right they call me Lobuto.

      Lubuto

    • ERICA Says:

      Ted, if I am right your wife was called Jasmine (sp). Jacqueline and Claire were my friends from Brownies (Lechwies) where your wife was one of our leaders.
      Ba Labuto (Lubuto), above, good to hear from you big brother. I trust God is keeping you well and blessing you each day. I am in touch with Kalaba.
      Best wishes.

      • Ted Wiseman Says:

        Hi Erica
        Nice to hear from you
        We are long retired now.
        Jacqueline is living in USA and has 2 sons
        Claire in Scotland with 2 daughters
        I will let them know about your contact
        My
        email address is
        tedwiseman@yahoo.com

  10. Robert Hall Says:

    Hi! I went to Zambia (Northern Rhodesia) in January of 1964. My wife and eldest child followed me from the UK 3 months later. Lived on 4th Street, near the cinema and Mine club for 3 years, and two more children, born in the South Hospital. So we lived through the worry of Independance with all of the bad stories. But October 24th was very peaceful, and we had nothing to worry about.

    My eldest started school at Helen Waller, and we, like most of the other writers, had a great house- servant who would walk him up to school each day. By this time, I’d moved up a notch and had an RHA home on 26th Street, near the railway station.

    My first assignment was on the sinking of the North Mine, then I was appointed Section Engineer over the Townships. So I got to know my way aroung Buntungwa, Phiri market up by the reservoir. The we had a flood/mudrush into the mine so I was shifted there to get that cleared up. Fighting the mud, moving pumps from level to level as we gained on it. I walked up the incline shafts from the pump stations many times, and once climbed a ladder up “D” shaft from 1500 level when the hoists had problems.

    The 480 level was still barely active, and we were into the ‘upper ore body’ off the 1120 (?) level, and were just planning on going down to 2800 ft. At that time, ore from the open pit was dropped down an ore-pass from the bottom of the pit, to the 480 level, then trammed and hoisted to surface by “D” shaft.

    The biggest store in town was Solanki’s on 14th Street, and I know most of the Indians had to get out. And wouldn’t you know, I met one of the sons of Mr Solanki, here on our street in Katy, Texas. So we have had some good chats about our time there.

    We spent 5 years in Chingola/Nchanga, and loved every minute of it

    Regards, Rob Hall, Katy, TEXAS

    • Louis Nthenda Says:

      Robert Hall’s posting interetsed me. I am from Malawi and joined Nchanga Mine in December 1963 as the first African in a European management position. I was in the Townships Office as Assistant Townships Officer. At the same time, we had the first half dozen African Shift Boss trainees for the underground. Could you get in touch with me? I would like to refresh my memory by exchanging notes. Try my facebook page from where I can give you my email address. I am writing from Japan where I live now.
      Regards
      Louis Nthenda
      Matsudo City, Japan

    • ulesi Says:

      These stories raises my emotions I cry each time I read stories of chingola in the past it seemed to hv been a great town I wish I was there then!

  11. Tione Says:

    Hi Everyone,

    It is fascinating to read about your wonderful memories of Chingola the once cleanest town in Zambia.So much has changed.If you would like to know about the state of Chingola kindly send me an email on phirits@yahoo.co.uk

    • vina Says:

      Hi ,My name is vina and I used to live in chingola on Kitwe rd until 1972.I was only fourteen and never went back to my birthplace.It is wonderful to share all these memories.Are you still in Chingola?If you are would you be able to send me any photos of chingola as it is now.

  12. Barry Morales Says:

    Hi, i kind of enjoyed the story at the sametime sad as I compared the chingola the writer talks about and the one I see today. My primary schooling was at Hellen waller (later known as Nakatindi) moved on to Chingola primary school which was considered upper primary then. The two schools were gorgeous, nice swimming people, all kinds of sports (atheletics day was huge. I remember my sports house was Luangwa which ever came second with its green colors). A nice arts room on the uppor floor of the administration block, a well stocked library and above all a film room. A place were we feasted on John Wayne moves. I recall there was a fish pond too. My favourite shop in the city center was Nchanga delicatesen followed by the city council library. It was a real mingling place for students from Chingola and convent school. Last year I went to visit my birth place, it looks like the old ruins of timbakutu, roads are full of pot holes, mwaseni bus station is like a war zone. The city market area has got all kinds of funny structures. How can those who were empowered to take the little beautiful town into the future spoil such beauty? They got the bribes and chowed them and developed amnisia concerning the future generation. Their grandchildren have no playing grounds, no library. Streets are full of potholes. Some are deas others are alive and living in the filth they created.
    +1

    • vina Says:

      Hi Barry,My name is Vina and I came across your article and was quite fascinated by all the memories.I too lived in Chingola until 1972 and went to the convent and then to helenwaller where mrs varcoe was the headmistress.I then went onto primary school and high school.I would love to see any photos of Chingola.

  13. Terry Weir Says:

    I stumbled by this article by chance and what an enjoyable read it was. I lived in Chingola for two years (1972-1973) as a child and have some wonderful but starting to fade memories. My father worked as an electrician at the copper mine, underground. We lived at 72 twelfth street. Most days after school (Helen Waller) were spent at the mine pool. I have two memories that I can’t find any information on , firstly I remember a tree near Chingola that had grown like Christ on the cross and was aptly named the Christ tree and secondly a recreational area near Kitwe called Rodwins pleasure park. I would be most grateful if anyone could shed any light on these subjects. thanks.

    • TERRY MONAGHAN Says:

      I taught at CPS from 1970-1974 and later at Nakatindi PS. Perhaps I taught you?

      • Alice Lumbe Says:

        Hi Mr Monaghan sir. You taught me at chingola primary school in grade 3. I remember you very well with your beard. You must be elderly now considering I was a tiny little boy then.

      • TERRY MONAGHAN Says:

        Alice, I was 69 last month. I retired officially 11 years ago but continue to teach part time. My current ambition is to be the oldest substitute teacher here as I am thoroughly enjoying it having been freed from the administration and paperwork attached to fulltime teaching. Thankfully I am in good health and have plenty of energy. I still have such fond memories of Zambia.
        What are you doing? Have you stayed in Zambia?

      • Penelope Ann Corbett Says:

        Aloha,
        Terry Monaghan, you gave me my very first job at Nakatindi, during the last summer that I ever visited Chingola,( my birthplace) at the age of 18.I had yet to receive my “A “level results from England, but you hired me anyway.
        Your smile and your kindness towards me and all of the kids there was a lesson that I have never forgotten.
        Chingola was going through some very tough times indeed.

        I became a R.N. working in England, California,Canada and Australia, before retiring from that and training to be a massage therapist here in Hawaii.
        I am so glad that you are still teaching.
        Good teachers are very rare indeed.It would be lovely to hear from you again.
        Mahalo, Penelope Ann Corbett

  14. Donette Peterson Says:

    Thanks. Have been working as an electrician for a while now so this is very useful.

    • Shaun Barker Says:

      Hi Donette
      Please read my reply above, it would be fantastic to communicate with someone living in Chingola and I would be very grateful if you could find the time to respond.

      Thanks
      Shaun

  15. Shaun Barker Says:

    My brother and I visited Chingola my dad 3 times each year from 1971-74, we also spent many happy days at the Mine Pool, a great place to hang out and meet people, I remember a few names, Tim Frost, Ronnie Redlighouse, Jill Wallace and Janice McGarry. We spent time at ythe pool, Arts centre, Rugby and Rifle Club, the social scene was brilliant and a great experience. My dad, Harold Barker, worked as one of the safety managers at the mine, he spent a few years at 22 Musuku Street, a great house with fantastic neighbours. Would love to go back and see the Town, but peoples comments say it’s not like it used to be and it may spoil great memories, however, anyone with photos or details or who can point me in right direction I would be extremely grateful. Thanks. Shaun

    • bert esplin Says:

      Hi Shaun,my family had 6 years living at kabundi.I worked on the mine, nchanga as a fitter in the mine rolling stock yard.My foreman being mike mc,quire a south africaan,a great guy.My wife margaret,daughter yvonne, and son trevor had a time of there lives never to be missed.We met many special people there.I trained at the gym with doug edmonds now famous for the worlds stongest man show,and peter fiore a stength machine/we returned in 2009 for a visit.We stayed at the protea hotel wich used to be kabundi bridge.Very nice,the mine club Duff also all the other clubs run down.The mine is owned by an indian company and the town is run down totally,the swimming pool is shut but our memories are forever tops PS we were there 1965/71,best regards,Bert Esplin

      • Robert Hall Says:

        I’ve added several articles to this site, but did you know Paddy Betts the shop steward for all of the “white” artisans? I started out having a really tough time with him but we ended up working very well together – 1964 to 1968.
        Rob Hall

      • gill Says:

        Hi Bert
        Did you know my Dad, Archie Cook He was a fitter and turner in the workshops until 1968.

        Regards

      • Robert Hall Says:

        I was over the Rolling Stock about that time. I remember that the rail curves were all one direction and wore the wheel rims out on one side, and we did not have a triangle so that were could turn the cars. And at one time, a train left for Bancroft (Chililabombwe) with the brakes on one car. We raced up to Bancroft, just as the rims overheated, expanded, and caused a derailment right in the Bancroft plant. Rob Hall

    • Mark Wildblood Says:

      shaun – We were neighbours 🙂
      I lived at 48 musuku street at the same time as your dad. My dad was mechanic – the names you mention are all relevant to mt parents crowd at the time

      There is a Chingola facebook page – you can find a lot of pictures that jolt memories as well as names of people you will have fogotten.

      • Francine Says:

        Hello Mark – we, too were neighbours of yours in Kabundi. We were the Lightbody family (Bill and Myra Lightbody and their three children) who lived on the opposite side of the street and next door to the Valentine family – Hamish, Iain and their big brother whose name escapes me! We were there from 1973- 1975. I remember the Hawker Sidley plane ride up from Lusaka (and back again during the school holidays from Scotland). Two propellers and not much of a runway to land on in Ndola! I’ve enjoyed reading the various emails from so many others who were obviously there at the pool, the cinema, Solanki stores and places like the Golf Club and Caledonian Club! Does anyone remember the young blind man who used to sit outside the chemist’s on the main street, hour after hour, day after day, begging? I would really like to know if anyone knows what happened to him or if he’s still in Chingola? He’ll be about 50-60 years old by now I would think.
        Francine Lightbody

      • Shaun Barker Says:

        Can anyone gove me the Facebook details as would love to see the pics etc, I have trieed searching under Chingola but get nothing. Sounds like everyone who was there in the early 70’s really ,loved the place and the people, a rarety these days unfortunately. Wish we could turn the clock back and do it all over again 🙂

      • Gianni Rizzi Says:

        If you go onto fb look for “Chingola Group” it is very interesting.

      • Richard riden Says:

        Hi my name is Richard riden I was living in musuku st with my Mam and Dad he was an electrician in the mine sadly he was killed on the way to the airport fetching my brothers I don’t know if you remember any of this thanks

    • Jill Harris (Wallace) Says:

      Hi, I am Jill Wallace, now Harris, are you on face book ? I am not sure I remember the name so a face would help . There is a friends of Chingola group with lots to stir those old memeories. Regards, Jill

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      • christine Says:

        Hi Jill, I certainly remember you, we used to hang out at the pool most days, I had long hair at tatoos at the time, (sign of a mis-spent youth, I am on facebook, now with shorter hair obviously :-). Thanks for the reply, I wilol try get on the Friends of Chingola site. Where you living now and do you keep ij touch with any of the old crowd?

  16. Renu Kakkar Says:

    It was so nice to read about Chingola.. it was indeed a clean town. My father was teaching Maths (besides English and History) at Chingola Secondary School from 1968 to 1981.I studied in the primary and the secondary school. so did my brothers and sister. We have many happy memories of our childhood. Yes i remember going down the mine on tour to see how copper ore was extracted.It was quite educational. We wore the overalls, the caps with the lights and the gum boots. We even travelled in the train below ground 🙂 I remembered the market, Kingstons where we bought all our story books, and the solankis and Beviks some ofthe main shops. I remember the beautiful Library which had computers that time and very clean it was with carpets etc.
    Today i identified the house we lived in 14 Solwezi Road, almost just opposite the Chingola Secondary School. I am also looking for some of the people whom we knew.

    • Hemakshi Patel Says:

      Hi Renu. I remember you. My name is Hemakshi. My mother’s uncle owned Bivek’s. I was one form below you. I remember your dad – he wore a neck brace & drove a VW. I live in North Carolina, USA. Where do you live?

      • vina master Says:

        Hi Hemakshi,I dont know if you remember me but we used to live next door to you in chingola.It would be nice to hear from you.

      • Renu Kakkar Says:

        Hi Hemakshi, Yes my father had developed cervical spondalytis. He expired in 1996. I work and live in New Delhi and drive a Maruti Wagon-R (CNG) not a VW 🙂 I have two school going sons.
        Nice to hear from you, though I saw this quite late.
        Would like to hear from others too.

      • Renu Kakkar Says:

        My email is renukakkar2004@yahoo.co.in

    • Hemakshi Patel Says:

      Please contact me

      • pvk14 Says:

        I think u were the tall lanky girl with me from grade 4 mr.mccan to mr fagg and mrs roopra in grade 6.

    • Carolyn Says:

      Would you by any chance know Miriam Dhoshi? Her father taught at Chikola and they lived near the Adult Education Center (on the side road going towards the Catholic Church the name eludes me now). I would love to make contact after all these years. Thanks.

      • pvk14 Says:

        Her name was Mira Doshi and her elder sister was Anjana Doshi.They had one brother named Tushar and a late sister.I think they migrated to England.

    • LIAM BRADLEY Says:

      Hi Renu. Do you remember me? I taught Metalwork, Technical Drawing and Maths in Chingola Secondary School from 1974 to 1978.

  17. Merle Juretzky Says:

    Hi there! My name is Merle Juretzky (Cox), I lived in Chingola from 1957-1970. I went to school there, got married, and our son was born there. My husband Mackie first worked for Deep Drilling, in charge of all the drillers. Then he went out on his own with a percussion machine, which he sub contracted to Anglo American. My parents, Bob and Merle Cox stayed in 60-3rd Avenue, and my father was in charge of the apprentice school. We finally sold our business and left in April of 1970. I have many happy memories of the hours spent at the Flying Club. We are still in touch with Ken Crossland, who now lives in the UK. I had an afrikaans teacher, that taught me in Chingola, and when we came to Estcourt Kwa Zulu Natal. R.S.A., he was here in the same town, and taught my son afrikaans, and my daughter, who was born here in Estcourt.
    My husband did the exploration for the copper deposits in Kalengwe, which was just in the bush miles away from Chingola. He was suppose to fly up to Kalengwe, with Anglo American staff, but because he was taking me up, he wasn’t on that flight, which crashed, and all on it lost their lives. We towed a caravan up, and what I can remember of the trip, was the last stage we actually went through bush, which I can’t remember how many miles it was, but it took hours. We took a big ten ton truck up, which was loaded with our diesel to run the rig, when we arrived the 200 litre drums had rubbed together and we had lost the majority of the diesel. Another thing that sticks out in my minds, was the tse flies, as soon as you went out of the cleared camp, they use to be attraced to the landrover, and try and get in the sliding windows.
    I have very special memories of my time in Chingola. It was a very colonial life, and friends you made then, are still friends now. If anyone would like to contact me, my email address is:-arenzi@telkomsa.net

  18. Merle Juretzky nee Cox Says:

    Merle Juretzky nee Cox
    It was so interesting reading all the comments. We left in 1970, and we have often wondered what it would be going back to see Chingola. I did put a comment on, which I had an email from Rob Hall. It was just a wonderful time, we had all the years we were there. My husband was originally working for Triplejay, they were the company that installed the bucket wheel in the open pit, that is how I met him. If anyone wants to contact me it can be at: arenzi@telkomsa.net

  19. Terry Sheppard Says:

    I worked in Chingola as an electrician from 1973-1978, my first foreman was Ted Elliot, Malcolm Thursby also worked with me. My wife Marilyn and myself were sports fanatics, hence Chingola fulfilled all our needs.
    Our second son was born there in August 1973, delivered by our friend Ruth, Sorry last name gone, she was from West Indies and on our induction Ruth had to come ubderground with us.
    I went back to Chingola in 2000, work related, yes it has changed dramatically, but it was still so interesting to travel around and see the old house in Musuku St, Kabundi, the tar road is gone.
    Wonderful memories.

    • Richard riden Says:

      Hi my father was an electrician in the mine his name was Eric riden we lived in musuku st as well I was there with my mother and brother I don’t know if you remember my dad was killed out there we wher on the way to the airport to pick my brothers up it’s good to read all the stories on here about Zambia

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  21. Merle Juretzky nee Cox Says:

    Anyone who would like to make contact about the old times, can get me on:- arenzi@telkomsa. net

  22. Gianni Rizzi Says:

    I lived in Chingola until 1977. I married Barbara Gibson from Bancroft (Chililabombwe) I went to Chingola high school and after that worked on the Open Pit with K:B:Davis as a meccanic. The best years of my life. I am looking for anyone who knows me or Lolly, my wife’s nick-name. Our daughters were both born in Chingola and we lived up in Kabundi. Please contact us. We spent a lot of time at the Rugby Club, Buff’s, and Cricket Club. I also ran a Disco with my friend Roy Robson. I knew the Riddle family aswell.

    • Dennis Schmid Says:

      Hi did Lolly have two brothers Bunny and Boggy?,if she rembers these nick names then I have the right person,see my history below.

      • Gianni Rizzi Says:

        Yes, Lolly’s brothers names are Bunny (bog) and Billy. You have the right person. Les Olvitt was my Best Man at our wedding in 1971. We fondly remember all the names you have mentioned., more so Lolly. Keep in touch. Gianni

  23. Dennis Schmid Says:

    I grew up in Bancroft 1950 to 1967.as there was no High school in Bancroft ,all the Kids there had to attend Chingola high School.My memories of those days are very vivid and whenever I think of them I get a wonderful feeling of contentment.I played in the first Rock band in Bancroft the “Denims” with Dave Goddard ,Fanie van Vuuren,Tony Delport and Wren Mastingle,Dave and I moved onto the Chingola band called” The Thunderbirds”with Terry Easton John Hind and Barry Eagleston.The Band playd regularly at the youth club as well as all over the Copperbelt It was in This Town I met A beautiful girl Jean Snell whom I eventually married. I was the last white Head boy in Chingola high school I think I was endowered with this litle,not through any academic achievement, but a long term award!!The Head master in those days was nicknamed “Th Bird”real name Mr Champion and later a Mr Vella.The first Boy Scout troop was called !st Bancroft and this group prouduced five Queen scouts namely Dave Goddard Cecil Evans Leslie Olvitt Kevin Morris and yours truelly

    • Mhango A. Says:

      Hi,am Mhango the school accountant at chingola secondary (high)school .as a school we are complying a list of all former head teachers and head boy and girl .We are also looking for any pictures of the school.if you or friends have the information we need please email me on kammhango@gmail.com ?
      regards
      Mhango

  24. Dennis Schmid Says:

    Hi Gianni and Lolly where is Bunny and Billy,you must remember my brothers Arther and Rob Schmid ,Bunny and Rob were the best of friends from school through to their apprenticeship.Unfortunately Rob died in 1989 in Jhb ,Arther stays in Boxberg and is retired.Do you rember the first corrugated iron school in Bancrof in Kamenza Wayt?It was used as a church on sundays,a movie house on saturdays and a dance hall for weddings and parties on other days.I wonder if it is still standing.
    My two best friends today stem from Bancroft days,namely Mike O’keeffe (married Dawn Smith) and Dave Goddard(married Marianna van Vuuren) I see them regularly.We have recently made contact with Ted Mills and his sister Mary(married Len Dye)My Dad Jimmy left ,me with a pile of Cine 8 films which I have put on DVD all of Bancroft (We stayed in 6 Kamenza Way my dads mine number was number 8- one of the founding fathers of Bancroft Mine) ,I play them occasionally just to take a trip into nostalgia to remind me what a wonderful childhood we had there!I have two sons Brendan (42) and Andrew who died at the age of 24.in 1997.This traumatic episode brought on Jean’s Leukemia(according to her oncologist)But I treasure every day with my beloved Jeanie.
    I must just mention Gianni, that Les Olvitt introduced me to Jean when we were 13/14 years old in Bancroft.Do you perhaps now where Les is ?Where do you good people stay? We stay in South Port 10 km from Port Shepstone.
    Keep in touch Dennis

    • Gianni Rizzi Says:

      Hi Dennis, it’s me Lolly answering as Gianni has an allergy with computers!! Ha!ha! Yes, I remember Rob and am sorry to hear that he has passed away. Bunny lives in Somerset West, Cape Prov. and Billy lives near Jo’Burg. My sister Beryl lives in Aussie and will be over in August for 3 weeks and then off to S.A. to Bunny as a surprise for his 70th b/day. Yes, I went to school in the corrugated shack!!
      O.M.G. Mike O’Keefe was a drummer in a band if I remember correctly. Please say hello from me..!! I remember Dave Goddard aswell,same hello to him!! Thanks.
      We live in the north of Italy, half way between Turin and Milan. We also have 2 daughter’s, Mireill who is 41, married with 2 little girl’s Nicole and Sophie. Tania we lost at the age of 19 in 1994. I am terriable sorry to hear about your wife Jeanie, she will be in our prayers.
      It is unbelievable how many ex Northern Rhodesians I have found on the net. I have looked and asked everyone I know on fb if they know the whereabouts of Les and unfortunately I have had no luck in tracing him.
      Hoping to hear from you soon. All our love Lolly and fam.

  25. Dennis Schmid Says:

    Hi Lolly and Gianni ,Yes Mike O’keeffe played as a drummer in a band and in the early days at the mine club after Rugby at the sundowners ,after I Finished with the ‘Thunderbirds’I played with Mike,the band was called “Mike and the Frozen Assetts”we played regularly at the “Croaking Frog”opposit the single quaters.
    Three years ago we flew up to Jhb for Mikes 70th Birthday the resident band got to hear we played together malennia ago and asked us to join them for a few numbers-we had great fun.
    I must ask you ,Do you remember Eddie Synkowski,nicknamed Tadahoosh (spelling I dont know)I
    keep thinking there is a connection with your family ?He was extreamly strong in his arms and was the local arm wrestling champ.I had two step sisters in Bancroft Madelene and Eleanor.Mads married John Gould from Chingola and Eleanor marrired Bugs Wilson she worked at Bancoft Mine Hospital as a sister.Madelene stays in Trieste Italy with her daughter Joey.
    hear from you soon Regards
    Dennis

    • Gianni Rizzi Says:

      Gosh, I can’t believe that after all these years we are managing to hear from all the “old-timers” (including ourselves) from Zambia. The best people I have ever meet and grew up with!! It’s great to hear that Mike and yourself got to play again. I bet it brought back some good memories to both of you!! I remember the sessions at the Croaking Frog. Good times!!
      Yes, Eddie Sulkowski is my brother-in law (tradoosh) he was also known as “Mr. Golden boot’s”, as he was a very good rugby player. When he comes over in August, they will be here for 3 weeks, I’ll get him to contact you, who knows, they might call on you for a cuppa when they get to S.A.
      Is your sister Madelene or your niece married to an Italian?? We often go down to Venice for long week-ends and have friends of ours who live near Trieste. Is Bugs Wlson’s nick-name “Bugs de Silver”??
      By the way, I see John Collier and his wife Collen every time I go to Aussie, did you know them?? They live in Perth now after leaving everything in Zim.
      Have a nice day. Cheers Lolly.

  26. Dennis Schmid Says:

    It is fantastic that we can communicate for all ex- pats to see.Yes I remember John and Colleen Collier they were house friends with my eldest brother Arthur , they were the same vintage same as Eddie and Beryl,I was the youngest ,now 65yrs old ,Johns brother Mike was at Chingola High with me for a year.I dont know if Bugs de Silver was his nick name,his real name is Dudley .Madelene daughter Josepha was married to an Italian but I dont know her husbands sirname.I tried to see if you were on Face book but there are 9 x Gianni Rizzi on facebook.I find communicating on google is depleating my air time rapidly so will request to use me e-mail address jeanschmid25@gmail.com I would like to swop photo’s with you.CHEERS FOR NOW DENNIS

    • Gianni Rizzi Says:

      Hi, You can contact me on “giannirizzi@hotmail.com” or fb Gianni Rizzi. Candelo. There is a photo of me and Gian. He is sitting on a table and I am standing next to him and we both wear glasses.You and Gianni are the same age and I am 5yrs younger. I’ll contact you on e-mail. Cheer’s. Lolly

  27. Gianni Rizzi Says:

    Hi Dennis, it seems as though you have disappeared!!! I have tried contacting your wife on fb, but maybe she doesen’t know who I am, also on your e-mail address and I’m waiting for you to confirm that you got my e-mail. Cheers Lolly

  28. Jill harris Says:

    Hi Shaun, there are loads of Saun Barkers on Facebook, give me a clue ? Memories starting to come back with your description of yourself. My e mail address is pengazam@yahoo.co.uk, drop me a line. I am not in regular contact with anyone but we all link up on facebook now and again and comment on each others posts. Tim Frost, Martyn Porch and more. I will tell you more, drop me a line Jill.

  29. Masambo Selisho Virginia Says:

    Hi people,

    It is quite interesting and sad at the same time reading and some stories.

    My name is Masambo Selisho l was born in Chingola in early 70’s l know reading some stories on here and the time you were there l was just a little boy. l was born in 15th street just opposite Nakatindi Primary school.

    We moved from 15th street to 38 4th street. l went to Nakatindi Primary school in 80’s. My father Peter Mwamba Selisho lworked in the mines (zccm) as an accident prevention officer until he died in 1990.

    As you aware that we had good sports facilities l was involved in sports playing more 5 sports events. I played Hockey,football, basketball,Tennis and Squash at Nchanga Rackets Club.

    When l was 14 choose squash and tennis as my main sports. We got help and sponsorship from zccm and some individuals called Jim Kitchen, Ray Wilson, Joe kabwe and Von Sternveot.

    From the age of 9-18 years l won many tennis and squash tournaments local and abroad. And then at the age of 19 l became professional squash player and presented Zambia in international tournaments.

    I was the first African to win the Kenya Open championship in Zambia1990 and represented Zambia in commonwealth games in Malaysia 1998 and Manchester 2002. I was also voted Zambia sports man finalists in 1996.

    I’m now live in Manchester, England being here for 17 years. I went back to Africa to visit my relatives in Chingola and l was shocked to find that the same facilities made me become one of the best squash player in world have been neglected it made me sad to a point l cried.

    The problem is with politicians because they are greedy. They privatised the mines(zccm) however, didn’t bother about protecting our sports facilities and a result all sport facilities have collapsed. It is sad the facilities look like you are in a jungle. As Africans we don’t understand the word development.

    What a shame once a cleanest town in Zambia is full of pot holes and looking like a jungle.

  30. shatu Says:

    I love that school its the reason to my succes

  31. Carrington Siatontola Says:

    Well, how nice it makes me feel to read about Chingola. I am currently living in Chingola where i work as a teacher at Chikola Secondary School. I am always looking for evidence that Chingola was the cleanest town in the country because it should be one of the worsed now. So interesting indeed. We welcome any developmental ideas and donations. Chao.

    • alan gregg Says:

      hi there
      I taught in Chikola from 1973 to 1982— take a look in my postbox to see if there is any mail for me!!!!!!!
      Alan Gregg

  32. Lorraine Dianne Egger (Letard) Says:

    Terry wanted to know about the Christ Tree near Chingola it is just outside Chingola on the way to Bancroft. And Rhodwin Pleasure Resort was on the way to Mufulira. I lived in Chingola and Kitwe from 1945 to 1993. I now live in Austria. My husband is Willi Egger he still lives in Musenga near Chingola.

    • Rob Hall Says:

      I was only in Chingola 1964-1969, but still in touch with Tony Bruce who was born, I think, in Muf! But his father Ked Bruce, live in Musenga for years. I think Ked was Head Draftsman at Nchanga. And I see Druv Sloanki occasionally so I’ll show him your comment.
      Regards, Rob Hall, Katy, TEXAS

      • Louis Nthenda Says:

        Hi Rob,
        Here I am again. I wrote earlier to ask to get in touc. I was at Nchanga in the Townships Office only for a year 1963-64. But it was a very eventful year for me as I was part of the Africanization programme AAC / NCCM was carrying out both above ground and underground (I am Malawian living in Japan). I would very much like to hear from the frist African Shift bosses who were trainees 1963-64 and what happened afterwards. But also anyone else who remembers these changes. I visited Chingola briefly in 1975. But otherwise, I am living on residual memories.
        My email for anyone who wants to get in touch is louisnthenda@gmail.com.

        Louis Nthenda
        Matsudo City
        Japan

    • Rob Hall Says:

      Further to yesterday’s reply, I have heard from Tony Bruce. He lived in plot # 19 in Musenga, with his father (Ked Bruce), and sister Sandy. Buck Pierce had the next lot – # 20 across the stream, and he remembers Carol and Jean Storie lived in # 19 (?). And he remembers the Christmas Tree just past the tailing dam.
      Sorry about my typo in the spelling of Druv SOLANKI.

      Regards, Rob Hall, Katy, TEXAS

    • Peter Pratt Says:

      The Christ Tree has been cut down around 2000 I was told, something to do with the mine expansion. Regards Peter Pratt ex Bancroft/Chililabombwe resident see Chililabombwe Facebook

    • Hermann Abbing Says:

      Hallo Lorraine Dianne Egger, my Name is Hermann Abbing and a live in Germany. A friend of mine, Mr. Dr. Georg Piontek told me that he worked in at the Musenga farm an now he wants to contact jour husband Mr. “Willi Egger” because he knows him very well from the time on the Musenga Farm in Sambia near Chingola and Kitwe.
      Can you tell my the contakt adress in Sambia an perhaps the telephone number of Mr. Willi Egger. I know that Mr. Georg Piontek is very interested about this. Much Thanks for your answer.

      With friendly Grüße
      Hermann Abbing

    • Ingo Dallmann Says:

      Dear Lorraine
      what a surprise to find your name. I used to work for Willy’s company, RACO, in Ndola in 1977 – 1979. But I know Willy and his brother Walter since 1964! We used to work together for PROCON in Umtali/Zimbabwe 1964-1965 and also in Durban and Swaziland.
      So Willy is still in Zambia and went into farming, great. Please send him a mail, I really would like to get in touch with him. One of my sons was born in Chingola. It was a great place to live in in the sixties. Only have good memories and really can’t believe how it changed to the worst over the years. What a pitty!
      Herzlichste Grüße aus Kapstadt euch beiden.
      Ingo Dallmann

    • mike allinson Says:

      Hello Lorraine
      I too worked for Reco for Willi and stayed at Musenga . Brother Walter interviewed me in UK aged only 20 and he gave me a job and hence the biggest break in my life . Loved being in Chingola from 1979 to 1986 great years .
      Seem to remember Willis father in law also on the farm think his name was Paul . Big regards fond memories and thanks to Walter and Willi

  33. Captain Miyambo Kasakula (rtd) Says:

    It is a wonderful thing to bring back to memory the good old days. Indeed chingola was the cleanest town in Zambia. I arrived in Chingola in December 1976. I went to Twatasha primary school in Chikola “B”. I was at Chikola Secondary School for only a term after which I moved to Chingola Secodary School until completing in 1983.
    Chingola was the envy of every one. What comes out of the writings tells a big story. I finally left Chingola to settle in Lusaka in the year 1988 having had a short stint of stay in Livingstone.
    I visit Chingola once in a while. What i see is the exact opposite of the once cleanest town in Zambia.
    Despite its appearance today, there are beautiful memories that I carry with me to this day.
    I pray that some day Chingola will reclaim its position in this country. All the best to all still hold this town with the good memeories of the past. Let these memories trigger off some new ideas of development………..Best regards

    • Etienne Williams Says:

      Good morning Captain Miyambo Kasakula,
      I am saddened by what you say, I plan to visit in 2015, will be stopping over in Lusaka first, would like to go to Kitwe and Ndola.
      Are there any particular precautions to take or would it be safe do you think?.
      Will I be very very disappointed??
      Best wishes,
      Etienne Williams

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  35. Elisha Alex Zulu Says:

    am pleased about all this information about the once cleanest town in Zambia,
    I am thinking of putting all these memories into paintings and drawings. I started drawing at lubuto art club in the nchanga north township . Thereafter, i went to Africa literature centre and chelsea school of art in england.
    An exhibition of paintings on the theme “good memories of chingola” for 2015, by myself is on card.

  36. Tom Bradfield Says:

    HI all you Great Chingola Guys !! Boy do I feel old ! I was born in Chingola in 1942 and lived in 45 -8th Street for some 16years .
    My first school was in the Scout hall between 7th and 8th street, near the swimming pool which was built when I was about 12. Hellen Waller taught my sister Yvonne and Brother Wesley. My father ,Warren worked down the mine as a Rock Breaker and was the Rhodesian Welter wt. Boxing Champion. Wesley was a very good Golfer and the Rhodesian and Federation champ.
    I remember being taught boxing by Mr Roy Pengelly (Who had lost both hands and had Claw Prosth) he was a great trainer but I did not last long as I remember getting a few beatings from a formidable boxer called Punchy Botes.
    The Chingola school was then built and when I was there(I bunked school a lot) I remember Mrs Vogelson, Mr Ken Tomlinson and,Mr Kruger all who whipped my bum very often !!
    Kubundi was being built during this time and my sister who married Jack Hill moved there.
    When I was not at school I spent many happy days hunting in the bush between Kabundi and Chingola. Ellies Arse ,a fairly large pool with two large rocks next to it shaped like an elephants Arse was a favourite swimming spot for me and my mates. We kept a fire going to burn the leeches off which would stick to us.The pool was on the golf course I think between the 11th and 12th holes. We used to hide under the river briges and steal the golfers balls as they landed on the11th green ! Got a hiding for that !!
    The 9th Street rock was also a favourite play spot with a huge swing which we tied to a large tree.
    Among my many friends was Brian Dawson. Brian and I had large Wild bird collection from birds which we caught in the surrounding bush.
    The first Cinema was on the road to the Kafue river (May be mistaken) and it was great when the one opposite the mine club was built.
    One favourite visiting place was the hot springs near the Kafue River bridge. One welcome outing was to go fishing and hunting with my brother and an elderly chap I can only remember as Öld Man River”. We used to shoot buck and Crocks from his boat as we travelled along the Kafue.
    The Open Pit mining was just developing and ruining many of our hunting spots and trees from which we collected bird lime .
    The mine hooter was very loud and was a signal for Brian and I to race home and bluff that we had been at school that day!
    My Dad was in the mine Prota (Rescue Team) so when the Mine hooter sounded alarm at odd hours our family would go to the mine shaft and sit in suspense waiting for the miners to come out.
    No Guy Fawkes or fire crackers but Dad used to bring home Chisa Sticks (Used to light the Dynamite fuses).
    I could ramble on a lot more but we are all a lucky and special group to have lived in CHINGOLA.
    To All my old friends– “God Bless”
    From Tommy Bradfield

    • Robert Hall Says:

      I’m forwarding this on to Tony Bruce who is a little older than you, born in ‘Muf,’ but lived in Chingola until around 1970. He was also a boxer! He married an English girl, in Chingola, and they now live in BC, Canada. I was only at Nchanga 1964-1969.
      Regards, Rob Hall, Katy, TX

    • Terry Pearse Says:

      Hi Tommy – noted your essay on times back in 1950’s in Chingola/Nchanga. This message to see whether it gets to you for chats about the past. I lived in 77/8th street and we were mates in those long ago days. Cheers, Terry Pearse

  37. Hazel Caldwell Says:

    It is really amazing finding this site and reading all the letters and comments, it brings back so many happy memories. We were in Chingola from 1967 to 1971. My Husband, Peter, worked in the Open Pit most of the time and I was secretary at Chikola Secondary School when Mr. Wilkinson, cant remember his first name, was Headmaster and a lot of expatriate teachers. I remember the school had a goat which used to escape and get into the school vegetable garden and it was my duty to go and get it out. The expatriate teachers were from England, South Africa and Sweden. I wonder where they are now? I think the Wilkinsons went to Australia. I remember they used our flat in Spain when they were touring Europe one time. My son, Mark, was born in the Nchange Hospital, and is now 45 and living in the USA. We are planning to return in the near future, hopefully, but I understand that it isn’t anything like it was during our time. So sad, it was such a great place. Would love to hear from anyone of that era. hazelc@icon.co.za.
    Hazel Caldwell

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Hazel. I worked at Chikola from 1971 teaching needlework. I might have just missed you! The headmaster was called Cliff and had 4 children. Adrian Wilkinson also worked there and taught me to drive. There was a Mr Tomlinson who used to help mend the sewing machines, and a Mr Dhoshi. My husband Ross worked in the Open Pit too. I’m working on my next book at the moment about our experiences in Zambia and getting easily sidetracked by fascinating websites like this one!

      • alan gregg Says:

        Hi Sara,
        I started teaching at Chikola in 1973 (jan) were you still there then?
        I taught History and Geography. I was in touch with Hazel who you sent an email to.
        We stayed in Chingola for 10 years!
        regards
        Alan Gregg

      • Sara Says:

        Hi Alan
        No I left in August 1972 and we returned to Chingola in 1974 but I didn’t carry on teaching because we started a family. 10 years is a long time, you must have seen some changes! We were there for a total of 5 years in 2 separate stints, living in 11th Street the first time and in Kabundi for 3 years the next time.
        Who was headmaster at Chikola when you were there?
        Sara

  38. Merle Juretzky (Cox) Says:

    Hi I am Merle Juretzky (Cox) lived in Chingola 1957 to 1970 goy married there, my son was born there. It would be nice to link up with anyone that knew me. My Dad was in charge of the apprentice school, and they lived in third avenue. There were only five houses here. Our neighbours on either side were Dereck Dutton, the other side was the Chapmans and the first house were the Corbetts, and then on the other side was the Betts. My email addres is arenzi@telkomsa.net if anyone would like to contact me and remiss about the past. We have lived in Estcourt, Kwa Zulu Natal R.S.A for just on 43 years. Hope to hear from someone that knew me.

  39. gideon van rooyen Says:

    Hi can one help me I went to chingola primary school 1968-1972 I had a friend his name was robert can’t remember his surname he had brother his name was william and older brother andrew does any one hnow about him

  40. alan gregg Says:

    Hi Sara
    Martin Steenveld took over from Cliff Wilkinson in late 1973 and by 1979 Narhan Singh was headmaster.
    Yes we saw a lot of changes, but Chingola was a great place to live in those days.

    • Jay Nair Says:

      Hi Mr Gregg
      My name is Krishnan and we lived two houses down from you. My father was Mr NP Nair who taught physics. I jumped when I saw your name on this blog. Do you have any contact with Mrs Steenveldt who’s hubby used to be headmaster at Chikola?
      I live and work in Dundee in Scotland now

      • ERICA Says:

        Krishnan, is your full name JayaKrishnan Nair. If so you came to my class at Chingola Primary School. You were always first to finish the maths tests and got all the answers right.

      • Jayakrishnan Nair Says:

        Hi Erica!
        Thanks for getting in touch!Yes it is me!
        I’m impressed you remember my name!
        Are you still in Chingola?
        Krishnan

  41. Peter Pratt Says:

    Great read everyone, came on this site during research on the open pit, as I’m writing my memoirs. My time in Zambia was mostly spent working for Eddie Reed in Bancroft/Chililabombwe 1966-75.

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Peter, did you know Cyril and Georgina Northcote, and where they are now? We knew them in Chingola but have lost touch. They moved to Coalville, South Africa in the 70s and we wonder if they are still there.

  42. alan gregg Says:

    Hi Krishnan, Yes I remember the family well, Your Dad changed the air filter in my VW beetle! in the mid 80’s, amazing what we remember. Up to a couple of years ago we were in touch in Marge S. both directly and through her daughter in law Irene. We would have no up-to-date info now
    Have you any info on Bhaskar Nair, who I think lived next door to you, or Narhan Singh. I had a student from 1978 at Chilola get in touch about a month ago. Are there any other other people from that bygone era that you are in contact with?
    Thanks for getting in touch.

    • Jay Nair Says:

      Hi Mr Gregg
      Your reply has made my day! Dad unfortunately passed away last August. Didn’t you have a white beetle? I remember my dad loved working on them and serviced our car on his own! Baskharan Nair is in Trivandrum in India.I try and meet him every time I go there. I will tell him i was in touch with you. I have good childhood memories of the times we spent growing up in lovely Chingola.Mrs Steenfeld made me a lovely cake for my birthday. It is amazing as you say what one remembers. i have no contact with Mr Narhan sorry. The Brooks’ family and Mr Strachan still live strongly in my memories.we left in 1982 after I finished my O levels.

      • alan gregg Says:

        Hi Krishnan,
        Very sad news about your Dad, What about your mum, if I remember correctly she taught in Chingola High school.
        Are you in email contact with Bhaskaran Nair?
        Somebody earlier in the forum mentioned Mr Doshi, who taught Geography at Chikola.
        A few years ago we met up with Ivan Hendricks in London, dont know if you remember him. He taught History. I remember the Brooks family and of course Zavier Strachan, but I have no info about either of them
        We also left in 1982.

      • Jay Nair Says:

        Hi Allan
        mum actually taught book keeping in chikola. She lives in India with my sister. I am flying this weekend to see them.
        You can try baskysoni@hotmail.com which is the email I have for Bhaskaran Nair.
        I remember the hendricks’ daughter nikki and Delia Brooks doing babysitting for you (she would get 20 ngwee a time! ).
        Do you have any old pictures of chikola/chingola. I had a look on the Facebook group but the pictures there did not really bring back memories of any sort. Looks like the town now is a far cry from the beautiful place I have in my minds eye.

  43. Williams Says:

    Hello Everyone from Chingola, What à delight to go back in time.
    I was there from 1963 to, 1973, went to Chingola high school.
    Lived in Chikola where my Dad was a teacher. Used to cycle to high school via the Rocks, by the back way, used to join up at the main road which went from the high school to the bridge at the bottom of the long down hill. Anyone remember? Used to hang out with Thomas Stevenson and Tony hodgson, Used to go to Kabundi , what a hill to climb!!;Anyway, Zambians, keep on writing;
    Etienne Williams

  44. Williams Etienne Says:

    Hi Jay ,I Knew The Brooks very well, used to play with Denton and Clinton, do you have news???
    Best wishes,
    Etienne

    • Jay Nair Says:

      Hi Etienne
      you must have been our neighbour! Did your dad have a great Dane?
      Your mention of the rock brings back memories. I am not in touch with the
      Brooks anymore.
      Do remember Clinton and Denton melting lead from the rooftops to make
      necklace pendants!

      • Etienne Williams Says:

        Hi Jay,
        Absolutely, She was called Bonnie, Do you know I never Saw Bonnie, My Dad had sent me away to England , I seem to have missed all the best parts, You must have seen our blue beetle that my brother drove on the playing field with Rody Line???.
        My dad left me a painting of the rocks, I will take apic with my phone next time down at my Mothers, and I can send you a photo.
        Send me your E mail!!!
        Tc
        Etienne

      • Etienne Williams Says:

        Hi Jay, yes , she was called bonnie.I wrote just now but it seems to have disappeared, Let me know if you have received it???
        I was saying in my previous note that I have a painting of the Rocks .Tc
        Etienne

  45. Williams Etienne Says:

    Hi Alan,
    My Dad was very very close to Mr Doshi, We used to see a lot of them, Am actually in touch with Thomas Coshi at this time;
    My E mail/ etienne.williams@gmail.com
    Hope to here from you,
    Etienne

  46. Williams Etienne Says:

    Hi Jay, was reading your bit about Mrs Steenfeld, my mum and dad were in touch with her when she left Chingola and went to S A. I Think She passed away unfortunately but will ask my mum again.
    We lived two houses up from the Brooks next to Rod Line. We had the Needhams and the Wilkinsons the the Hardys.
    Mrs Steenfeld lived near the church at the top of Chingola at the time if my memory is ok???
    Etienne, Ps have found someone recently from Kitwee.

  47. Williams Etienne Says:

    Hi Sara, yes my mum was Jacquline Williams, My dad taught french also.

  48. Williams Etienne Says:

    Hi Sara, Adrian Wilkinson lives in Bristol now, She was my next door neighbour.

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Etienne, your mum was always very friendly in the staff room. Adrian Wilkinson helped me learn to drive on Saturday mornings. We lived in 11th Street.

  49. Williams Etienne Says:

    Hi Tom, Was born in 1955 so you are a little older than me but boy do you bring back memories, Started out in Barotseland Sefula near mongu in 1957, went to Ndola in 1960 then Luansha, then chingola around 1961.to 1973.
    Great reading and I used to do the same ,Keep on rocking man, stay cool.
    Etienne

  50. Sara Says:

    If you didn’t already live in Chingola, how did you get there? We were a little unorthodox and drove overland through the Sahara in a Hillman Hunter. I’ve told our story in my book Appointment in Zambia. http://www.troubador.co.uk/book_info.asp?bookid=1812

    • Etienne Williams Says:

      Hi Sara,
      So nice of you to write back, have also had a long letter from Alan.
      Very quickly, Barotseland in the bush at Sefula,1957 to 1960.
      Ndola 1960 ,1963, Luansha, 1963, 1964, Chingola, Chikola, 1964, 1973. Uk 1973 1984; France 1984 to Know, live in Paris and also the Country near LE MANS.
      hear is my E Mail: etienne.williams@gmail.com.
      Give me some news!!!
      Best wishes,
      Etienne

    • alan gregg Says:

      Hi Sara,
      I’ve just got your book on kindle and already enthralled with your crazy, courageous journey!

    • Etienne Williams Says:

      Hi Sara, I have just ordered your book,
      Best wishes
      Etienne

      • Sara Says:

        Hi Etienne, thanks for ordering my book. I hope you enjoy it! The last chapter is in Zambia, and I’m busy with the sequel covering our 5 years in Chingola.

  51. alan gregg Says:

    Hi Etienne,
    If you go to Chingola and Chikola,please take loads of pics especially of my old house and school, so I can show them to my g’children

    • Etienne Williams Says:

      Hi Alan, yes planning 2015, of course will be going to all our old haunts. By the way, phoned my mum and she gave me Margeries last address.She went to S A and married a Fred Backman, 26 Ave V’Hermet, Glen Haven, Bellville, 7530 S. A.
      If it can help???
      Best Wishes,
      Etienne

    • Jay Nair Says:

      Hi Alan
      met bhaskar nair last week in India. He was thrilled
      When I told him I’d met you.
      His email is actually sbnair1941@gmail.com
      Cheers
      Jay

      • alan gregg Says:

        Hi Jay,
        Thanks for Baskhar’s email address. I’ll get an email off to him tomorrow
        Quite amazing that now we have contact between me from house number 2 Etienne from number 3 and you from number 4 and of course Baskhar from number 5– that only leaves a few other houses on a campus where we lived 40 years ago. Elizabeth was in contact today with Irene Steenveld — Marge’s daughter-in-law. To see if we can get a contact address for her.
        Hope you had a good holiday last week Jay
        Tell you mum Etienne that we send warm greetings
        Cheers guys
        Alan

  52. Etienne Williams Says:

    By the way Alan, Mum says a big hello, its amazing she is 91 but these old memories are good for her.

  53. alan gregg Says:

    Bonjour Etienne,
    No allez pas les bleus. Aujourd’hui, il est l’irlande —et Paris? il est vert maintenant!
    N’est pas?
    Alain
    jo prefere el espanol

  54. alan gregg Says:

    lo siento yo prefiero. typo!!

  55. Etienne Says:

    Hi Alan, I also have received Sara’s book and am enjoying stereck?
    I will of course take loads of photos.
    Am planing to fly to Lusaka, then rent a car and go to south Luangwa, back track down and head for Kitwee and then check out Chingola, Might fly straight to Ndola if it looks doubius.
    But Imfouwe is a sur thing. Must go to vic falls too of course;

    tc, Hi to every one from Chingola.

    • Jay Nair Says:

      Ethene
      would you be kind enough to take pics of the houses in chikola as they are now and number 4 as well when you are there?
      I envy you and hope the trip brings back good memories
      jay

      • alan gregg Says:

        Hi Jay,
        I sent an email to Bhaskar a couple of weeks ago when you sent me the new email address, so far I’ve had no reply– any ideas what to do?
        Hope all well with you. my email address is—
        aggregg1@gmail.com. get on touch by email and I’ll sent you a few pics
        cheers
        Alan

  56. Etienne Says:

    My E mail for anyone from Chingola
    etienne.williams@gmail.com

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  59. Clement Mwango. Says:

    Hi All, reading this blog has made me smile with happiness and at the same time sombre with sadness. I was born in Chingola in the mid 70’s and lived there till the mid 90’s. My schools were Chingola Primary and Kabundi Secondary. I left the the country for duty in Europe but got back in 2009 and settled in Ndola. Most of my generation have left the place.

    I visit Chingola almost every week. The Chingola one finds today is a far cry to that most people on this blog have described. It’s no longer the cleanest town. Social clubs are run down and neglected, and one needs a 4×4 vehicle to travel around town. Mine owners don’t care about life away from the mine. But one thing reminds the same. People are so polite and place is still safe. One can safely walk from Chikola through town to Riverside or Kabundi East anytime of the day. Been a foreigner makes everyone around so eager to help.

    I am so hopeful that one day my birth place will return to its past glory. Even if it does not happen in our life time … it just should. I recently acquired some land in Musenga and plan to settle there once I retire.

    God bless you All.

  60. Hylton Dunstan Says:

    Quite unexpectedly I came across a lot of interesting letters and messages from various people who lived and/or worked at Nchanga Copper Mine in Chingola in Zambia. I left Chingola in 1965 after working on the mine for 8 years in the Rolling Stock Yard. Mention was made in one message that Mlke McGuire was his foreman in that same department. Actually, Mike took over from me when left.
    If anyone from Chingola would like to contact me, I will respond to all of them. Africans are known to give names to White people and they called me “Kabundi”, which actually means “Night ape” !!
    like anyone who knew Chingola…. I loved it very much. I lived at 72, 8th Street in Chingola, the same street as Roy Pengelley.
    I served my apprenticeship on the Roan Antelope Mine in Luanshya.

    • Robert Hall Says:

      Hi, I arrived at Nchanga in January 1964, and in 1965 was Sectional Engineer over the “Shops & Services,” so I was over the Rolling Stock. I remember a train leaving Nchanga going to Bancroft (ore was being brought down for treatment), but the train left with one car still having the brakes on. It got into Bancroft yard, before the rim had expanded and came. We knew of it and had riggers up at Bancroft for its arrival. One of our riggers was hit on the head (hospitalized) by a crane hook as it crossed over the tracks to do the repairs. I wonder if you remember that? I was named Mkulu…. and lived at 44 4th street. My e-mail is rhall36@aol.com, and I was at Nchanga for 5 years, ending up as Sectional Engineer – Underground. Did you know Doug Cornish? He was the Divisional Manager at that time.

      Rob Hall

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  62. Anna Nesje Says:

    Hello! How interesting to read about Chingola. My family was there from 1969 to 1971. My father Arne Nesje was a school inspector, my mother at home, my sister Guri was 11 and I 4 when we arrived. Did anyone know us? I don’t remember much, just the good feeling of Africa. I understand so much have changed, and not for the better. In what way can we help?

  63. Nick Icely Says:

    I was born in Nchanga mine hospital in 1949, the son of the Anglican missionary priest to the Copper Belt, Bernard Icely. He lived and practiced on the Copper Belt from 1937 to 1955 at which point we had to move to England on account of my mother’s health.
    I am sitting in the Chingola Protea Hotel now, having for the first time in 60 years returned to Zambia, in search of my roots. I have already read a great deal about the early missionaries to Zambia and its surrounding countries, and have read mention of my father. I came to Chingola to try and understand more of the nature and experiences of the man. However, other than visiting St Barnabas church, and talking to the current priest in charge, Father Japhet, I have not been able to glean any anecdotal information that would help enrich my somewhat sparse knowledge of my time in Chingola or, more importantly, my father as a missionary priest. I have come across this blog almost by chance and it has truly impressed me with the ‘love’ for Chingola that comes through. Should any of you reading this have any knowledge of my fathers work, I would love to hear from you.

    • alan gregg Says:

      Hi Nick,
      Funny you should mention St.Barnabas anglican Church– I was the organist there for 10 years!! from 1973 to 1982 with ministers such as Peter Armstrong, Andrew Castle and the legend himself Michael fullagar whom I met again about 7 years ago in Kent.
      I taught at Chikola Secondary school in Chewempala compound for the 10 years I was in Chingola. We lived on the campus at the school. there were 8 staff houses.
      If you take photos of Chingola especially the chuch outside and inside and anything else of interest around Chingola I would love to see them– I’ll send you my email address if you can forward some pics.

      • Robert Hall Says:

        Alan, I have a very old ‘grainy’ photo of St Barnabas which I took in 1965, which I can send you a copy, what is your e-mail? But I am interested in any photos of the inside; I’m still a strong Anglican; Episcopalian in Texas. Rob Hall, Katy, TEXAS

    • Jay Nair Says:

      Hi Nick
      How is your trip going. I too have thoughts of revisiting Chingola where we lived from 1974 to 1982 on Chikola Secondary school campus.
      We were in house number 4 close to Alan Gregg’s.
      If you pass that way could you snap some pics of the school and houses?
      What is the hotel like?
      Do hope your trip brings back good memories.
      Jay

    • Robert Hall Says:

      We were members of St Barnabas from 1964-1969 and all I can tell you is that Father Moberley was the Rector there, and he baptized two of our children. I remember we had an annual fete and it was extremely popular. I would like to see photos you took of Chingola, and the inside of the church. My e-mail is rhall36@aol.com. I believe Father Moberley stayed in Zamba for many years. Rob Hall, TEXAS

  64. Shaun Barker Says:

    Alan Gregg, surely it would be better to have some upto date pics on this site as we all would love to see the town as it is, be that good or bad?

    I for 1 would be grateful to Nick if he posted his pics on here….just a thought

    Cheers
    Shaun

  65. Les Nel Says:

    How thoroughly enjoyable to read through the comments on this site. I stumbled on it quite by accident. I was born in the Nchanga mine hospital in January 1951. I went to school there until I was 15 years old and left for boarding school in kingwilliamstown in South Africa in 1966.

    Some of the names in the communications are familiar to me, like Bogo Juretski, who if I remember correctly fell into a charcoal pit and was terribly burnt. I see there is even mention of the High School Headmasters Champion and Vella. I remember latin lessons with Mr Vella….hmmmm.

    Most of the years in Chingola were spent in 26 – 6th Street. I was very involved with the SPCA in my last years there and did a lot of voluntary work.

    I would love to hear from any of the folk who were there or are currently there. What beautiful childhood memories I have. I can be contacted on lesj.nel@gmail.com

  66. Vina Says:

    Hi My name is vina and I used to live in chingola on kitwe rd and then in biveks flats.M y dad used to work for solankis and then for biveks.I left in 1972 and never went back but I do have lots of memories.I also went to Helen Waller school and then on to chingola primary as well as chingola high school.I am trying to get in touch with some of my school friends.I have been reading the comments and it takes me to memory lane.One name I recognise is Hemaxi Patel who used to live next door to me .I would love to hear from anybody .

    • Alice Lumbe Says:

      Wooo!!! I remember the Brooks family, especially the sister who I was with at Chingola primary school. Clinton the best swimmer of all times at chingola primary school, keen basket ball player. Clinton the man well known in the chikola area, down to earth riff-ruffer. Such a wonderful family. Anyone remember Mr and Mrs Philips?

      • Etienne Williams Says:

        Hi Alice, The brooks were our neighbours at Chikola,
        I used to play with clinton and denton.
        we used to watch zoro at there house we were also very close to the Creels.
        Tc
        Etienne

      • pvk14 Says:

        Denton was my good friend tried finding him on Facebook but failed.

  67. Rob W. Hall. Says:

    Vina, I’ll take a copy of your ‘posting’ along to Druv Solanki tomorrow. He has a dry cleaning business just along the road from me, here in Katy, Texas. See if he remembers you. Regards, ROB HALL

    • Vina Says:

      Hi Rob Thanks so much for replying so quickly.I think I know Dhruv Solanki .My dad who is Mr Chhabil Chauhan used to work for the solankis in the sixties and we used to know dhruvs parents.My dad always remembers them.It would be nice to hear from him.

  68. vina master Says:

    Thanks Rob ,This is my Email; vinam82@hotmail.com

  69. Rob W. Hall. Says:

    To Sara – Appointment in Zambia! I read your book and was absolutely fascinated. I bought it second hand, and I believe it must be your personal copy because it has all of the notes in pencil in the margins. I’ve worked in several places in Africa (been to Timbuktu), and followed your journey on Google Earth, and looked at photos in all of your stopping places. you certainly had guts. Your notes brought back so many memories, i.e. “putsi flies.” But I was disappointed when you ended it in Kitwe. When we left Zambia in 1968 I wanted to drive home overland but with 3 children, my wife wouldn’t consider it. When you left Edinburgh, your first breakdown was “south of Newcastle.” So you must have broken down in our hometown, Gateshead. I talked to Druv Solanki, and he sent me some videos taken last year when one of the Solanki families went back, and visited all of their old stores and homes in Chingola, Luashya, Mufelira, and Ndola. They asked the Zambian owners and were in all of their old haunts. ROB

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Rob, it’s always great to hear from readers, and isn’t google earth a wonderful tool! We couldn’t believe how much the road had changed since 1970, but I believe the population growth in the Sahara has been huge since then.
      Yes it’s lovely to find people’s pictures and memories online. Have you found the Chingola Facebook page?
      I doubt the notes you found in your copy were mine …all my notes were before it was written. Where are you now? Back in Gateshead?

      • Rob W. Hall. Says:

        Sara, my story is too long for this page – I need your e-mail. But a quick response, I’m not into Facebook, although I did join to find Heather Chalcraft (born in Chingola). And I ended up just west of Houston for my retirement.

      • Sara Says:

        West of Houston sounds warm! We have gravitated to Cyprus for our winters for the same reason. Send your email and I’ll reply to it.

      • Rob W. Hall. Says:

        it’s rhall36@aol.com, Rob Hall, Katy, Texas

  70. Tommy Bradfield Says:

    Interesting reading and brings back many great memories. I was born in Chingola in 1942 and lived at 45-8th Street until 1959. I suppose there are not many of old Nchanga Oldies around now. If any of you are able to take a few picts of my old house (It was surrounded by Jackaranda and mango trees)And Email them to me I would be grateful. ( tom@lynski.com) I’ll Show them to my Grandchildren ! Have posted a few memories on this site a year or so ago.

  71. Elaine Chatburn nee Gregson Says:

    I lived in chingola in 1976/77 i was 9 years old. My Dad was a heavy constuction engineer for the mine. i went to the copper belt mine school. Mr Potter was head teacher, i loved that school. we went on a school trip to kafuwe national park for a week. We also lived in Mufelira for three years where my brother was born in1970/73 dont remember much of that. cant find any pics of the school anywhere which is a shame. Mrs presley was one of the teachers, i lived next door to her. It has been nice reading all the memories.

  72. Louis Nthenda Says:

    I lived in the bachelors’ quarters at No. 85 First Street Nchanga South in 1964 when I worked in the Nchanga Townships Office. I will be grateful if anyone can take a photo of the quarters for my memoirs, if the building is still around, and send to me electronically. I live in Japan; so I am unlikely to make it to Chingola any time soon. My email address is: louisnthenda@gmail.com.
    Cheers
    Louis

  73. musonda Says:

    Great town of chingola, was born there.

    My dad, Mr Timothy Musonda taught history and civics at chingola secondary school from late 1970s still late 80s. We lived at house #1 chingola secondary school teachers compound just next to the to the school.

    Am now based in Sydney, Australia. ……miss chingola very much though it’s not the same place most of you guys would think of.

    masautso Musonda.

  74. Etienne Williams Says:

    To Alice Lumbe ,
    Hi Alice, would love to have your E mail ,
    would like to walk memory lane and talk about Chikola and the brooks .
    My E mail is : etienne.williams@gmail .com
    Ps, Hi to the people from Chingola.
    pps was ing Chikola between 1964 and 1973

  75. Renu Kakkar Says:

    Hi all, I keep visiting this blog to get an update on all the information I can get about Chingola and the people who lived there. It is good to go down memory lane 🙂

    As mentioned earlier, my father was teaching Maths in Chingola Secondary School from 1968 to 1980/81.

    I studied in Chingola Primary and Chingola Secondary School. We had great dedicated teachers. I stayed in Chingola from 1969 (5th Grade) to Form V and left for India in April 1977, to attend College. My youngest brother was born in Chingola in march 1977.

    My classfellows in primary and for some part in Secondary school from girls were Anjana Doshi, Anjum Sheik, Astrid Hofman and Ase Kjellmo ( these two are on facebook) from the boys there were Arvind Solanki, Ajoy Paul ( his sister Nancy Paul was in my younger sister’s class). I also remember two other class fellows whose father taught in Kabundi, Thomas and Vargese Kaurin/ Chaco, Then there were two British twins by the names of Jonathan and David Hopkins who were there in the Secondary school. There was one Ajay Patel also.

    There was one studious boy, by the the name of Christopher cant remember his surname another one was Mwango. They used to come to school to study as they couldn’t study at home. They did very well in Form V and got admission into UNZA.

    I would appreciate any information about these people.

    • vina Says:

      Hi Renu,I dont know if you remember me but I also lived in Chingola on Kitwe rd.I do vaguely remember you.My name used to be Vina Chauhan and lived across Shobhna patel.I also went to chingola primary school and also secondary school.I left Zambia in 1972 to come to england.I also remember anjana doshi

      • Robert Hall Says:

        I don’t think Druv Solanki looks at this site, so I’ve taken copies along to him (He has a business just along the road from me in Katy, TEXAS). Rob Hall – in Chingola 1964-1969

    • williams Says:

      Hi Renu, My name is Etienne Williams, I lived in Chikola,I am in contact with Jay Patel, and should be able to reach Angena Doshi.
      write me on my E mail:
      etienne.williams@gmail.com
      Cheers for now,
      Waiting to hear from you!!!

  76. vina Says:

    Hi Robert,Ive been trying to get in touch with Dhruv Solanki and even emailed him .My dad who is 85 knew him very well and really wants to get in touch with him.Lets hope he looks at this site.

    • Robert Hall Says:

      I’ll go along and get his e-mail for you tomorrow. If your father is 85, it may not be the same Druv. ‘My’ Druv is about 60; but let me get the e-mail and let them sort it out. Incidentally, Druv’s family visited all of their Copperbelt homes and I saw great videos.
      Rob Hall, Katy, TX

      • Vina Says:

        Hi Robert , thanks for your reply.”Your” Dhruv is the same person I’m talking about because I saw his photo on Facebook and he used to call my dad uncle and he was just a teenager in the late sixties.Anyway see what you can do.My dad and I saw the videos as well.once again thank you.

      • John Lumbe Says:

        My Father worked for the Solankis at chingola furnitures as a sales man. If I remember well some children migrated to Canada. Is it the same solankis?

  77. vina Says:

    Hello John,Yes they are the same solankis my dad worked as a sales assistant between 1960 to 1970 in chingola.He was called mr Chauhan and then he started work at Biveks.

  78. Renu Kakkar Says:

    Hi vina, Robert Hall and Etienne Williams, Thanks, I would like to know more. I think Dhruv was Arvind Solanki’s elder brother. They had a sister named Kusum who married someone in Kenya, I think. She used to teach me and my brother French as our French was not too good. I’ll be happy to get in touch with Anjana Doshi. Etienne Williams, I will send you a mail shortly.
    My email address is renukakkar2004@yahoo.co.in

    • vina Says:

      Hi Renu,sorry for the delay in replying.Yes I remember kusum solanki and arwind solanki.Druv is his cousin.My dad used to work for the Solankis and then the Biveks.Are you in touch with anyone else?I am in contact with Shobhna Patel and Pratibha Patel.Its so nice to hear from people in Chingola.

  79. Nadia Freeman-Paull Says:

    Francine,

    My parents Mike and Leila Paull were living near to you in Chingola Zambia. I knew Robert Lightbody. But i was just a kid then.

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Nadia

      We remember your parents very well. My husband Ross worked with Mike on production in the open pit, and we occasionally met socially too. Your mother was very proud of you!

      • Nadia Freeman-Paull Says:

        Francine,

        Dad and Leila live in Staffordshire now. Leila is my stepmother. She still plays a lot of Bridge. Dad is not playing Golf anymore but loves gardening. We used to visit them on holidays in Chingola. Where is your son Robert these days?

  80. Sara Says:

    If anyone is interested, my new book Malachite and Mangoes is out now, about our experiences in Zambia between 1970 and 1977. We lived in 11th street at first, and then Birch Street and finally Datura Street in Kabundi.
    I have changed and mixed up most names!
    It’s available from Troubador.co.uk now, but will be on general release at the end of next month. It can be preordered now on Ebooks and is already listed on Amazon.

  81. Nadia Freeman-Paull Says:

    Is this Sara or Francine. I am confused how this works. Sara what is your last name?

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Nadia
      Sara! (Dunn) I think I’m a bit mixed up too because I assumed you were Leila’s natural daughter. I can’t remember her name.
      We have three daughters and no sons. ☺️

      • Nadia Freeman-Paull Says:

        Sara, my dad does remember Ross. i mentioned you to him and that he worked with him. They first lived near The Lightbodies and then moved house more to the centre.

        I got you mixed up with the Lightbodies who have a son. Leilas natural daugher is Melinda Janki.

      • Sara Says:

        Ah yes. We never actually met any of Mike and Leila’s children, I think you were all away at school perhaps.
        Do you remember the Northcotes, Cyril and Georgina? They had 2 daughters Louise and Claire. They moved to South Africa, Cyril had a job at Coalville, but we lost touch.
        I don’t remember the Lightbodies.

  82. Field Ruwe Says:

    I have read almost all the postings and like others, I too wish to nostalgically reminisce. My name is Field Ruwe I lived in Chingola from 1963 to 1973. My father Jeremiah Ruwe was Officer-in-Charge at PWD. We lived at No. 10 Nile Road, Kabundi East on the same street with the Hodgsons. I played with Tony and Elias, and knew Lawrence, Rodney, and Maggie (Elias’s sister). Joe Wabo lived at the end of the street. I went to Chingola Primary School and was in the same class with Solanki and played cricket with him and Chima. Two teachers that come to mind are O. Henry and Ms. Robinson. I attended Chikola from 1969 to 1973. Cliff Wilkinson was head and Chima deputy. Wilkinson was later replaced by Martin Steenfeld. I was taught by Sekeleni, Needham, Dhoshi, Rajiwara, Ramaswami, Shloff, Smith, Dean, Laloo, Cryil, Brooks, Wilkinson “The Beard,” among others. I sung in the St. Marks church choir and was a member of the Boys’ Bridge under the supervision of the church organist John Ovey. I live in Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA, less than a mile from Harvard. I am an educator, media practitioner, and published author. Keep with the good work all. My email is: ruwebooks@gmail.com

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Field
      i really enjoyed reading your post and remembering many of the names you listed! It’s also great to hear of a Chikola pupil going so far! As an author myself I’d like to know what you have written?
      At the same time you were at Chikola I taught needlework to the girls, but only from 1971-2.
      My second book Malachite and Mangoes has just been published and is all about the five years we spent in Chingola during the early seventies.
      That was a very special time for so many of us in Zambia to which we look back very fondly!

      • Williams Says:

        Hi Sara, Just finished your second book,Malachite and Mangoes.
        Hope Sheelagh,Kirsty, Ailish and Ross are well!
        I Was younger than you (still am of course) so I did not have the worries of grown ups , it is a very accurate and precise narration.
        Enjoyed the book very much .
        Will reply to Field as I played with all those guys.
        Take care and keep us informed of your next book.
        Tc,
        Etienne Williams

      • Sara Says:

        Hi Etienne, it’s good to hear from you! Yes we are all well, and our 3 girls have given us 8 grandchildren!
        If you have the time and the inclination, a review of Malachite and Mangoes would be much appreciated to get things going!
        I hope you and yours are also well!
        Sara

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  84. jay (jashoda) Patel Says:

    Hi. I am jay, some of you may remember me as jashoda deva. hi etiene williams!! i remember you! and yes…i read mangoes n malachite…super reading, memories…welll…loved every page sara, well done. Thomas n his wife bought me the book, i couldnt put it down. i am looking forwards to pick up the memories with you mr. Williams!! it was Etienne who insisted i read it!
    i was just a teen then but left there in early 70 s.
    sara, i think you must have known my mum,who worked in Biveks on the material counters, Mrs, Deva, better known as Daphnie to the ladies of the mining community.
    Also, Renu Kakkar….i remember you too! i was scared of your dad!!…all due respect. would you please be able to contact me? i am looking for some Chingola friends, and i think you may be able to help!! i would also like to get in touch with Dhruv Solanki…so if anyone can pass on my email…be great.
    i went to Chingola secondary school, Mr. Hardy was the headmaster then. there was Mr. Udith, Mr. & mrs. Quick, Mr. Paul,- always said,”es es seet down” Mr. John, Mr. Koshy, Mr. Steenveld..deputy head, One of my favourite teachers was a Miss, Thompson geography teacher, who inspired me so much that i made it a mission to visit The Grand Canyon!! oh and Mr. ovey! -history!! Always was so rude and nicknamed him overy ofcourse!! sorry!! some of my friends are still friends! it was the best time of my childhood and some of the memories i have are so vivid and clear!
    My email is
    jaykneecap@hotmail.com
    would love to catch up with anyone who still has such fond memories and the good times!.
    still remember Rodwins, and Hippo pool, and Jackes rocks ….caatch up soon again.

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Jay
      It’s really great to get positive feedback on Malachite and Mangoes, thank you! I tried to be truthful to capture what it was like back in the 70s, for us at least.
      I must have known your Mum as she worked in Biveks on the materials counter, but I’m afraid I can’t remember her.

    • Vina Says:

      Hi Jay,This is vina,it’s great to read these posts and you were enquiring about Druv Solanki.I tried to get in touch with him through Rob Hall as he lives near him in Texas but I still haven’t heard anything.He is on Facebook and messaged him but no luck.

  85. jay (jashoda) Patel Says:

    Terry Shephard….are you related to Nola Shephard?

  86. jay (jashoda) Patel Says:

    Hi Vina. ya i read your request, i guess he is just too busy maybe. this is a lovely site, some really interesting feeds.
    sara., thank you for your reply, ya, it was a long time ago, so its easy to not have everyone in mind.
    oh.. and apologies….nearly ruined it all…ofcourse, malachite and mangoes…you can see what featured most in my mind!!! such a lovely book, so much detail and just so interesting. i am looking forwards to talking it through with etienne, but looks like he is still reading it ! i wish i had read your other book first, but still, this was so much fun. it was like the sweet juices of the mango with the richness of the malachite….thank you so much for sharing all your experiences of those precious times.
    it was like reliving it all again.
    well etienne…where r u? time to catch up on how many blue scopes u chased huh?
    tc.

    • Rob Hall Says:

      This from Rob Hall, (Chingola 1963-1969). I read every post, and when applicable, take a copy along to Druv. He has a dry cleaning business about 400 yards from my home. He always seems interested, but never seems to get onto the site. So I WILL take the latest epistle along to him tomorrow.

      And Sara, I’ve read your first book – amazing! And by some misfortune (identity theft), I bought your second book twice. Another even better story, having spent time in Nigeria, Benin Republic, Burkino Faso and Mali. So I gave my extra book to Druv some time back, but have not had any comment back from him.

      But I love the site, but the time period is getting later than my sojourn there.

      Regards, Rob Hall, Texas

      • Sara Says:

        Hi Rob
        It seems that we arrived just after you left! Thanks for your comments on my books, and also for inadvertently swelling sales!

      • Rob Hall Says:

        One very pertinent item in the book. As a young Engineer, my first assignment was over the township maintenance. One of my artisans, a Brit, was an alcoholic, and i heard from his crew that he spent all of his afternoons at one of the sports club bars. I pulled him in and had him work on jobs in the maintenance yard, and replace him with ‘your’ Portuguese, guy Di Angelo (don’t remember his first name.
        I had a terrible time fighting the grievance with the Union leader Paddy Betts. His first comment to me was “Do you get the Zambian Times? Because tomorrow you are in it! This isn’t Paddy Betts telling you; it is 2000 expat workers who will have you kicked out.”
        But when I told Paddy in private, the reason, we became the best of friends, and from that time, even when I was over all Underground Maintenance, we would plan our strategy in private, and then ‘put a show on’ at the grievance hearings for the sake of the employee, and management.

        Rob.

  87. jay (jashoda) Patel Says:

    Hi Rob – so kind of you! i sure hope he will respond, it will be lovely to get in touch! Dhruv was a really friendly guy in those days!!….and i am sure he still is!….looking forwards to have some news of him soon. thanx again Rob.

  88. Renu Kakkar Says:

    Jay I have added you on Facebook. I think everyone is there, I added Vina, Himakshi as well as a few others I could find there. I am still looking. Arvind Solanki was my class in Secondary school. I did send him a message and add request but I did not get a response. I wanted to know about the other kids in the school and my class. Anjana Doshi, her father taught in Kabundi school, ( I have not found her) Then there was Astrid Hofmann from Germany settled in Australia and Ase Kjellmo from Norway who are on facebook. There was Ajay Patel and Ajoy Paul. I have no idea where they are. There were Thomas Jacob Chaco and Vargese Jacob Chaco whose father was teaching in Kabundi. Then there were David and Jonathan Hopkins from UK. Their mother and father taught in the Primary School.

    There are so many others whose names i remember or faces i remember. I wish I could find them for enriching my childhood memories.

  89. Tione Phiri Says:

    Hi everyone, so glad you people have ‘unpacked’ great memories of the town I love so much. Chingola will always have a special place in my heart. Most names being mentioned here sound a bell…Solanki, Ruwe,Vargese,Hall etc.

    • Jashoda Patel nee Jay Deva Says:

      hi Tione. Are you related to Goldwyn Phiri?

      We were at chingola secondary school, and he was head boy there in the 60s.70s.

      I believe Goldwyn passed away some time ago, but I am still looking for his friend khalid, if anyone has any info , please message me on jaykneecap@hotmail.com

      His dad ,a Mr Ishaq worked at the municipality offices, and khalid had a brother called Majid, sisters Mahajabeen, n the twins Anjim and Rohila.

      they all lived at 16A The Close.

      thank you for any info .

  90. Tom Bradfield Says:

    Maybe a few interesting things ?
    Are there no old timers left ???!!
    Born in Nchanga1942. Lived at 45-8th street / First school was the scout hall next to which the swimming pool was built /New school,Hellen Waller was named after the lady who taught my sioster/ my mates and I swam in a pool, near the 11th hole called Ellies arse because the nearby rock was that shape/ sold fruit at the market near Solankis store / Swung from a rope secured to a large tree at the 9th street rock./ Hunted green dove pigeons off fig trees on the large ant hills at the railway station/ played Bok Bok in the park near the athletic cricket grounds at 9th street/ Collected bird lime off the fig trees before the eyesore of the open pit mining now is./ Paddled down the stream in homemade canoes.. before Kabundi was built.
    On google the stream and Ellies looks dried up ? Looked forward to showering in the strong showers with my Dad and the other miners when they came up from underground He was a rock breaker.
    When the sirens sounded accidents underground it was always a relief to see him up !!
    Great childhood days if you can make anything of the above

    • Sara Says:

      Hi Tom
      You were so lucky to enjoy such a time and place with the unrestricted freedom of that time.

    • Les Nel Says:

      Hey Tom, those were the days. I was born in the Nchanga mine hospital in 1951 and spent a very care free youth until 1965 when I went to boarding school..

      Went through the schools to high school when Mr Vela the Maltese man was headmaster. The names of the guys I used to know and hang out with, who were slighty older than me and you might know.

      My dad was Ike Nel and he was a welder on the mine
      Then there was Trygve Sjothun and his slightly younger brother Stanley Sjothun.
      Boggo Juretic
      James and Tony Holt
      Archiebald Galloway
      Forbes Laird
      Trevor Schultz, who was an independant contractor with his own earthmoving equipment who worked in the open pit towards Bancroft.
      My claim to fame, was that as a youngster of 14years old, I worked voluntarily at the SPCA and when the Kitwe Vet was not there, he taught me how to do basic work like non complicated diagnosis and suturing etc.
      Eventually in ’65 a whole lot of my mates and myself went to a boarding school called Dale College in the Cape.

      It is incredible how those days formed such a strong reference for the rest of our lives.

      Les Nel

    • Vina Says:

      Hi Tom,I was born in Ndola in 1957 but lived in Chingola until 1972.I went to Helen Waller school.My dad used to work for solankis in the sixties and seventies.We lived on Kitwe Rd.I read your article and it bought so many memories.Does anybody have any pictures of Chingola?

  91. Tom Bradfield Says:

    Hi Sara yes I was very lucky. Could go on and on about my childhood there eg Kafue River Bridge and hunting and fishing there. Brother was Rhodesian golf champ at age of 16. Father was Rhodesian welter weight boxing champ. Seunkie Botes knocked the hell out of me at Roy Pengelleys boxing school.Big event to go to “Bioscope”at kitwe. On An On XX

    • Terry Pearse Says:

      Hi Tom
      I replied in 2017 to a writeup of yours (posted in 2013) where you outlined life in Chingola in the 1950’s. You brought back many memories. I hope that you get this second message. Geoff Willcocks lived in 44/8th Street – we used to meet up at your house across the road. I now live in Western Australia about 70 kms south of Perth. Hope to make contact. Cheers, Terry Pearse

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  93. jay Says:

    Jay (Jashoda ) Patel nee Deva says:

    Hi..Long time no posts….Etienne reminded me of this again…and I am still looking for some friends from good times gone by! mostly 70 s. so, I remember rodwins, and jacks rocks and elephant rocks, and that stream you passed by going to Kabundi, and the little picnics we had by the stream! One of my favourite shops was Kindstones., where my best friend Moira and I always bought so many books between us, and the lady in there always saved the books for us as we never had enough money to buy them all! (we loved reading Han Suyin in those days!!) and I wonder if anyone remembers my mum who used to work in Biveks , the late Daphnie as she was known, or Mrs. Deva. she used to always work well with all the miners wives who came in to buy materials for sewing.
    I guess I led a pretty sheltered life, but it was the way it was! it was rich in its self, the community and people I lived amongst.
    I went to Chingola Primary , Mr. Hopkins I remember from there, taught me how to swim!
    I went to Chingola Secondary, Mr. Hardy was the head, and lots of teachers there, Mr. udith. Mr. Koshy,Mr. & Mrs. Quick, Mr. John, Mr Cornilius, Mr. ovey, Mr. Paul,

    • Robert Hall Says:

      So we are in touch again Jay. I think I am too old to have anyone from Chingola when I was there, but I wondered if anyone remembers Phiri Market (by the reservoir), or Buntungwa Park where Keneth Kaunda gave his speeches? This was circa 1964, and I was usually one of the few ‘whites’ to visit that area as part of my job. The reservoir had a crack in the base foundation and could not be filler to capacity. And I drank beer in Buntungwa Park beerhall. Tried the Chibuku but couldn’t handle that. But I did work with Zenela Dhlamini who eventually married Thabo Mbiki and became the first lady of South Africa. And for Sara, I’m reading your book for the second time, adding footnotes for my children.

      Regards, Rob Hall

  94. Peter Curtis Says:

    I have found it amazing reading the chain of comments. I was born at Nchanga hospital in 1958, Helen Waller school,and then the mine offered to fly many of us down to SA boarding schools when the train started to be threatened heading to schools in S.Rhodesia. My older brother and sister were at Whitestone in Bulawayo and the convent in Lusaka respectively. I was quite young when we left Chingola in 1971 but I have fond memories. My dad, Ben Curtis worked on the mine. Mom (Sylvia) and Dad are recently passed away at good old ages, down in Joburg. Bother Glenn remains in Joburg and our sister Sandra passed away 20 years ago. Lots of good old families like Crichton, Brannigan, Allan, Abrahams, and others remained good friends. I thunk my parents arrive in Chingola around 1954. I remember old Mr Solanki, still with trepidation at my age of 59, he didn’t like us pikkies touching the stuff in the shop! Loved our days out to Hippo Pools.

    • Robert Hall Says:

      I was assistant to Ben Curtis for a very short time over the Underground Section. We had just had a mudrush in 1965 and I believe he was in charge of the pumping. I took over getting the mud out from the 480 and 960 levels. Was he from the UK? My memory is fading some.

  95. Peter Curtis Says:

    Etienne Williams talked about Roddy Line. We were buddies at around 7 years age, along with Grant Suttcliff. Any news on these two please?

  96. Shelley Hart Says:

    Hi Paul
    My brother, sister and I were born in Zambia, and it seems you walked the same steps as us although a few years later.
    We’re thinking about returning and wonder if the Helen Waller school was still there when you were? I wonder if you would email me on diane.charlton@hotmail.com . Thank you
    DIANE

  97. Vina Says:

    I lived in Chingola until 1972 and went to Helen Waller school and then onto Chingola Primary school.Does anyone remember the head for Helen Waller.I think she was called Mrs Varcoe.

  98. Jill O'Brien Says:

    Having lived and worked as a nurse in copperbelt of Kitwe and Chingola in 1970’s I would like to commend Paul on his eloquent comprehensive account of those times. Thank you so much.

  99. Rob Hall Says:

    This to Peter Curtis. As I said some time back, I worked briefly under Ben Curtis, after the mudrush in 1970. Was he a ‘Geordie?’ I believe he was from the North of England?

    Regards, Rob Hall, Texas

  100. Tom Bradfield Says:

    Seems as if nobody is left from my era Born i942 in Nchanga hospital. Lived at 45-8th street until 1959.
    first school was at the scout hall near the swimming pool before the pool was built.Then to Hellen Waller.
    Teachers were Mrs Vogelson then Ken Tomlinson and Kruger.
    Does anybody know of John and Roger Garlic who lived next door? And Keith Andrews?
    Looking at Chingola on google earth now and then and it seem to be a bit lacking in forest areas now ?
    Great reading your comments.

    • Robert Hall Says:

      Ked Bruce was there at that time, and his son Tony Bruce would be about your age, born at Nchanga, or perhaps Muf. Ked was Chief Draftsman when I arrived in January of 1964 and I left in 1969. Rob Hall, Texas

    • Terry Pearse Says:

      Hi Tom

      Interesting to read your insert. I lived in 77-8th street from 1948 to 1957. I remember names such as Roly Pengelly, Ivor Penny, Bill Spires, the Rumbelows, Brian Wilson. I was also mates with Geoff Willcocks who lived in 44-8th street.

      Where are you now? I live in Mandurah, 70 kms south of Perth, WA.

      Interesting to read of us oldtimers from the Copperbelt.

      Cheers, Terry Pearse

      • Tom Bradfield Says:

        Hi Terry. That’s great. Roly’s father, Roy, was our boxing trainer. I have contact with his grandson,Ralph, who is the son of Roly. Both live around the Durban area. Also remember Rumbelows,Ivor and also see Billy Spires every now and again. Think he has now moved to the Cape.We are call certainly spread out all over the world It must be great in Australia. I have a Nephew in Sydney along with many other friends.I am living in Umhlanga Rocks near Durban.
        I enjoy reading these posts every now and then.
        Keep well
        All the best
        Tom

      • Terry Pearse Says:

        Hi Tom, Thank you for the quick response.

        Wife (Sue) and I are coming to Durban for Xmas and New Year. We will be around for 5 weeks from mid-Dec to mid-Jan.

        Our youngest son lives in Durban North and we used to live on Marine Drive in Umhlanga for 14 years before emigrating to OZ in 2012.

        It would be great if we could meet up during our visit.

        I also remember the KG classes at the ‘old scout hall’ – where the cricket club is now.

        Lots of questions to ask. I have vague recollection that you had ‘scarlet fever’ or someone else in your family?? and your home was quarantined for a time.

        Cheers

        Terry

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